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		By: T. Rob Brown		</title>
		<link>https://www.forbeck.com/2013/06/06/kickstarter-figuring-your-costs/#comment-54520</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T. Rob Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 01:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Matt, thanks for posting this! :) Great stuff. Very useful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, thanks for posting this! 🙂 Great stuff. Very useful.</p>
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		By: Matt Forbeck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Forbeck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.forbeck.com/2013/06/06/kickstarter-figuring-your-costs/#comment-54421&quot;&gt;Eleri Hamilton&lt;/a&gt;.

They didn&#039;t for me. I printed editions with a different cover for my Kickstarter backers and only sold standard edition covers through DTF. Worked great.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.forbeck.com/2013/06/06/kickstarter-figuring-your-costs/#comment-54421">Eleri Hamilton</a>.</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t for me. I printed editions with a different cover for my Kickstarter backers and only sold standard edition covers through DTF. Worked great.</p>
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		By: Eleri Hamilton		</title>
		<link>https://www.forbeck.com/2013/06/06/kickstarter-figuring-your-costs/#comment-54421</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eleri Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 01:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What if you were having the hardcover of your book be a Kickstarter only thing, and the softcover available in one of the DriveThrough branches? Would they charge a setup for the hardcover?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if you were having the hardcover of your book be a Kickstarter only thing, and the softcover available in one of the DriveThrough branches? Would they charge a setup for the hardcover?</p>
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		By: Matt Forbeck		</title>
		<link>https://www.forbeck.com/2013/06/06/kickstarter-figuring-your-costs/#comment-54415</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Forbeck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 18:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.forbeck.com/2013/06/06/kickstarter-figuring-your-costs/#comment-54414&quot;&gt;James Mathe&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, James. I read that a while back. Good stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.forbeck.com/2013/06/06/kickstarter-figuring-your-costs/#comment-54414">James Mathe</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, James. I read that a while back. Good stuff.</p>
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		By: James Mathe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Mathe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the board game prospective I wrote something similar... http://www.jamesmathe.com/10000-feet-to-publishing-a-board-game/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the board game prospective I wrote something similar&#8230; <a href="http://www.jamesmathe.com/10000-feet-to-publishing-a-board-game/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.jamesmathe.com/10000-feet-to-publishing-a-board-game/</a></p>
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		By: Bart Leib		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bart Leib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.forbeck.com/2013/06/06/kickstarter-figuring-your-costs/#comment-54412&quot;&gt;Matt Forbeck&lt;/a&gt;.

That makes sense. I&#039;m actually doing my research now for CG&#039;s first limited hardcover release ever, so for that side I&#039;m a newb. And actually I think DTF is the cheapest I&#039;ve seen so far.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.forbeck.com/2013/06/06/kickstarter-figuring-your-costs/#comment-54412">Matt Forbeck</a>.</p>
<p>That makes sense. I&#8217;m actually doing my research now for CG&#8217;s first limited hardcover release ever, so for that side I&#8217;m a newb. And actually I think DTF is the cheapest I&#8217;ve seen so far.</p>
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		By: Matt Forbeck		</title>
		<link>https://www.forbeck.com/2013/06/06/kickstarter-figuring-your-costs/#comment-54412</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Forbeck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.forbeck.com/2013/06/06/kickstarter-figuring-your-costs/#comment-54411&quot;&gt;Bart Leib&lt;/a&gt;.

True, Bart! I did notice that when I was costing things out. The trick for me was that I needed hardcovers, both for singles and omnibuses, for each Kickstarter. CreateSpace can do hardcovers if you ask, but the setup cost is around $200 per book. The extra $400 for going with them for each project made going with DTF the better choice. I suppose I could have gone with CreateSpace for the softcovers and DTF for the hardcovers, but I preferred to deal with a single provider to assure similar quality. 

All that said, I have a line on a few high-quality hardcover printers I may use for my next project.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.forbeck.com/2013/06/06/kickstarter-figuring-your-costs/#comment-54411">Bart Leib</a>.</p>
<p>True, Bart! I did notice that when I was costing things out. The trick for me was that I needed hardcovers, both for singles and omnibuses, for each Kickstarter. CreateSpace can do hardcovers if you ask, but the setup cost is around $200 per book. The extra $400 for going with them for each project made going with DTF the better choice. I suppose I could have gone with CreateSpace for the softcovers and DTF for the hardcovers, but I preferred to deal with a single provider to assure similar quality. </p>
<p>All that said, I have a line on a few high-quality hardcover printers I may use for my next project.</p>
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		By: Bart Leib		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Matt. Some good advice here! One thing though: It looks like DTF&#039;s costs for paperbacks are a bit higher than some other options. Based on their price page, it looks like you paid $4.17 per copy (198 pages, 6.14 x 9.21). The same specs through Createspace runs you $3.22 per copy. (https://www.createspace.com/Products/Book/, &quot;Buying Copies&quot; tab) If you bought from DTF in bulk over 250 copies then they&#039;d be $3.336 per copy which is pretty close, but even so it looks like Createspace is cheaper. I can&#039;t speak to the quality of DTF, I assume it&#039;s fine, but I&#039;ve been happy with the quality of Createspace too.

Of course Createspace doesn&#039;t offer hardcovers so it would mean using 2 printers, but for smaller runs where each copy is almost $1 cheaper, it might be worth a bit of extra work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt. Some good advice here! One thing though: It looks like DTF&#8217;s costs for paperbacks are a bit higher than some other options. Based on their price page, it looks like you paid $4.17 per copy (198 pages, 6.14 x 9.21). The same specs through Createspace runs you $3.22 per copy. (<a href="https://www.createspace.com/Products/Book/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.createspace.com/Products/Book/</a>, &#8220;Buying Copies&#8221; tab) If you bought from DTF in bulk over 250 copies then they&#8217;d be $3.336 per copy which is pretty close, but even so it looks like Createspace is cheaper. I can&#8217;t speak to the quality of DTF, I assume it&#8217;s fine, but I&#8217;ve been happy with the quality of Createspace too.</p>
<p>Of course Createspace doesn&#8217;t offer hardcovers so it would mean using 2 printers, but for smaller runs where each copy is almost $1 cheaper, it might be worth a bit of extra work.</p>
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