Comments on: The History of ICE https://www.forbeck.com/2006/12/05/the-history-of-ice/ Award-winning & New York Times-bestselling author and game designer Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:44:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Matt Forbeck https://www.forbeck.com/2006/12/05/the-history-of-ice/#comment-5774 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:44:39 +0000 http://www.forbeck.com/?p=796#comment-5774 I worked on both games and enjoyed them each for their own strengths. The MERP books aim at fans of Tolkein’s literature (they came long before the latest films, of course), while the Decipher books shoot more for those who enjoy Jackson’s films but may never have picked up any of Tolkein’s work. I like both. 🙂

]]> By: Matt Forbeck https://www.forbeck.com/2006/12/05/the-history-of-ice/#comment-50454 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:44:00 +0000 http://www.forbeck.com/?p=796#comment-50454 I worked on both games and enjoyed them each for their own strengths. The MERP books aim at fans of Tolkein’s literature (they came long before the latest films, of course), while the Decipher books shoot more for those who enjoy Jackson’s films but may never have picked up any of Tolkein’s work. I like both. 🙂

]]> By: Allen Shock https://www.forbeck.com/2006/12/05/the-history-of-ice/#comment-5766 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:09:03 +0000 http://www.forbeck.com/?p=796#comment-5766 Yes, I long ago gave up on it 🙂 I figure hey, its a byline anyway, and maybe that will benefit me some day…and if nothing else it gives me street cred with some Hero fans.

I did play MERP back in the day and enjoyed it…more than Decipher’s effort, actually.

]]> By: Allen Shock https://www.forbeck.com/2006/12/05/the-history-of-ice/#comment-50453 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:09:00 +0000 http://www.forbeck.com/?p=796#comment-50453 Yes, I long ago gave up on it 🙂 I figure hey, its a byline anyway, and maybe that will benefit me some day…and if nothing else it gives me street cred with some Hero fans.

I did play MERP back in the day and enjoyed it…more than Decipher’s effort, actually.

]]> By: Matt Forbeck https://www.forbeck.com/2006/12/05/the-history-of-ice/#comment-5756 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:09:14 +0000 http://www.forbeck.com/?p=796#comment-5756 Sorry to hear that, Allen. I’m sure that by now that debt has officially been stricken from any books. Reborn companies (like both ICE and Hero) don’t often take on their predecessors’ debts, especially if a bankruptcy is involved.

Sometimes you just have to write off bad debt. I did that long ago with a company called New Infinities, which Gary Gygax founded after leaving TSR. It was one of my first professional experiences in the industry, and I got burned badly. However, it’s rarely happened to me since.

]]> By: Matt Forbeck https://www.forbeck.com/2006/12/05/the-history-of-ice/#comment-50452 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:09:00 +0000 http://www.forbeck.com/?p=796#comment-50452 Sorry to hear that, Allen. I’m sure that by now that debt has officially been stricken from any books. Reborn companies (like both ICE and Hero) don’t often take on their predecessors’ debts, especially if a bankruptcy is involved.

Sometimes you just have to write off bad debt. I did that long ago with a company called New Infinities, which Gary Gygax founded after leaving TSR. It was one of my first professional experiences in the industry, and I got burned badly. However, it’s rarely happened to me since.

]]> By: Allen Shock https://www.forbeck.com/2006/12/05/the-history-of-ice/#comment-5755 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:46:06 +0000 http://www.forbeck.com/?p=796#comment-5755 My first published work in the gaming industry (and to date only such work) was an article on converting Justice Inc. to Hero 4th edition. I originally submitted it for Adventurers Club, but Bruce Harlick had Steve Peterson add to it and it was published in Hero System Almanac #1. They sent me the contract AFTER it was published; I was supposed to get $50 and some copies of the book. I signed the contract and returned it..and to this day have never received the money. Thus, my experience with ICE is sadly not as positive as yours in terms of payment of money owed.

]]> By: Allen Shock https://www.forbeck.com/2006/12/05/the-history-of-ice/#comment-50451 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:46:00 +0000 http://www.forbeck.com/?p=796#comment-50451 My first published work in the gaming industry (and to date only such work) was an article on converting Justice Inc. to Hero 4th edition. I originally submitted it for Adventurers Club, but Bruce Harlick had Steve Peterson add to it and it was published in Hero System Almanac #1. They sent me the contract AFTER it was published; I was supposed to get $50 and some copies of the book. I signed the contract and returned it..and to this day have never received the money. Thus, my experience with ICE is sadly not as positive as yours in terms of payment of money owed.

]]> By: Matt Forbeck https://www.forbeck.com/2006/12/05/the-history-of-ice/#comment-5691 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:32:10 +0000 http://www.forbeck.com/?p=796#comment-5691 Understood, Christian. I think Steve’s done a fine job with the new Hero Games, and playing a large role in it is the gig of his dreams. His style and mine don’t always match, but I admire the passion and skill he’s applied to the Hero System.

]]> By: Matt Forbeck https://www.forbeck.com/2006/12/05/the-history-of-ice/#comment-50450 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:32:00 +0000 http://www.forbeck.com/?p=796#comment-50450 Understood, Christian. I think Steve’s done a fine job with the new Hero Games, and playing a large role in it is the gig of his dreams. His style and mine don’t always match, but I admire the passion and skill he’s applied to the Hero System.

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