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		By: Blake		</title>
		<link>https://www.forbeck.com/2004/02/04/the-game-has-changed/#comment-50058</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2004 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Matt for not taking what I said as something meant towards you.  I hope it&#039;s better then it sounds, which I agree is only based on a very small amount of information.  I hope I&#039;m totally wrong and find myself buying it, honestly I do.

I&#039;m being a bit old school when I say this but I was hoping for a total revamping of Greyhawk, kind of in the way they did FR over the years.  I think that a redone Greyhawk, new boxset with tons of information and books released supporting it, would go over very well.  Especially considering it&#039;s been so long since even a map has been released.

I will say this, as I did with FR (which I loved), I&#039;m going to try and look at the new world with an open mind and perhaps I&#039;ll enjoy it.  Though so far I&#039;m not liking the action point thing myself, but as usual a good GM can filter things out they don&#039;t like.  Not that I have a group to play with anymore, having moved from my home state of NJ to Michigan.

The main reason for my comments on them betting too much on it is based more on a mistrust of Hasbro, then WOC.  I don&#039;t know if it would take too much for them to cancel a line honestly, they have a pretty bad history behind them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Matt for not taking what I said as something meant towards you.  I hope it&#8217;s better then it sounds, which I agree is only based on a very small amount of information.  I hope I&#8217;m totally wrong and find myself buying it, honestly I do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m being a bit old school when I say this but I was hoping for a total revamping of Greyhawk, kind of in the way they did FR over the years.  I think that a redone Greyhawk, new boxset with tons of information and books released supporting it, would go over very well.  Especially considering it&#8217;s been so long since even a map has been released.</p>
<p>I will say this, as I did with FR (which I loved), I&#8217;m going to try and look at the new world with an open mind and perhaps I&#8217;ll enjoy it.  Though so far I&#8217;m not liking the action point thing myself, but as usual a good GM can filter things out they don&#8217;t like.  Not that I have a group to play with anymore, having moved from my home state of NJ to Michigan.</p>
<p>The main reason for my comments on them betting too much on it is based more on a mistrust of Hasbro, then WOC.  I don&#8217;t know if it would take too much for them to cancel a line honestly, they have a pretty bad history behind them.</p>
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		By: Matt Forbeck		</title>
		<link>https://www.forbeck.com/2004/02/04/the-game-has-changed/#comment-50057</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2004 10:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blake: 

No offense taken. Wizards is clearly not gambling D&#038;D on Eberron any more than it staked the future of the game on the release of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. Eberron is simply another way to play the game. 

I&#039;ve read everything developed for Eberron up to when Wizards sent me a draft of the campaign setting book a few weeks back. It&#039;s great stuff with plenty of material for adventures and (fortunately for me) novels. Like Buzz, I&#039;m happy Eberron isn&#039;t another generic fantasy setting. Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk pretty much have that covered. 

The people griping about Eberron so far haven&#039;t seen much of anything about it yet. When the book finally comes out this summer, they may change their tune.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blake: </p>
<p>No offense taken. Wizards is clearly not gambling D&amp;D on Eberron any more than it staked the future of the game on the release of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. Eberron is simply another way to play the game. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read everything developed for Eberron up to when Wizards sent me a draft of the campaign setting book a few weeks back. It&#8217;s great stuff with plenty of material for adventures and (fortunately for me) novels. Like Buzz, I&#8217;m happy Eberron isn&#8217;t another generic fantasy setting. Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk pretty much have that covered. </p>
<p>The people griping about Eberron so far haven&#8217;t seen much of anything about it yet. When the book finally comes out this summer, they may change their tune.</p>
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		By: Buzz		</title>
		<link>https://www.forbeck.com/2004/02/04/the-game-has-changed/#comment-50056</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2004 10:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Eberron, I&#039;d have a lot less respect if WotC&#039;s new setting was yet another &quot;solid fantasy world.&quot; FR, DL, and GH have been done already. Kudos to them for trying something new. And it&#039;s not like Eberron&#039;s potential failure would hurt D&#038;D in any way.

I dunno. I&#039;m amazed how much bile has been spewed over Eberron based on a few pages worth of preview material. I look forward to the finished product. The incorporation of Action Points into D&#038;D has me sold on it already. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Eberron, I&#8217;d have a lot less respect if WotC&#8217;s new setting was yet another &#8220;solid fantasy world.&#8221; FR, DL, and GH have been done already. Kudos to them for trying something new. And it&#8217;s not like Eberron&#8217;s potential failure would hurt D&amp;D in any way.</p>
<p>I dunno. I&#8217;m amazed how much bile has been spewed over Eberron based on a few pages worth of preview material. I look forward to the finished product. The incorporation of Action Points into D&amp;D has me sold on it already. 🙂</p>
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		By: Blake		</title>
		<link>https://www.forbeck.com/2004/02/04/the-game-has-changed/#comment-50055</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2004 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just a quick note, I noticed after I posted my Eberron comments, that you&#039;re working a novel series based in the world.  I really hope you don&#039;t take offense to what I said, as I really didn&#039;t mean it that way at all.

Well off to bed for real this time, sorry again for the Eberron comments.  Hope you don&#039;t think I was making them towards you at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note, I noticed after I posted my Eberron comments, that you&#8217;re working a novel series based in the world.  I really hope you don&#8217;t take offense to what I said, as I really didn&#8217;t mean it that way at all.</p>
<p>Well off to bed for real this time, sorry again for the Eberron comments.  Hope you don&#8217;t think I was making them towards you at all.</p>
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		By: Blake		</title>
		<link>https://www.forbeck.com/2004/02/04/the-game-has-changed/#comment-50054</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2004 01:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting article.  I&#039;d say that while the market is a bit saturated at the moment in the end it should lead to a better quality product all around.

When Wizards first put the d20/OGL out there I can&#039;t even begin to guess at the number of absolute garbage that was pumped out in an attempt to make money on it.  I&#039;m one to always read through a book before buying it, so I didn&#039;t get stuck with any of the books that really weren&#039;t worthy of money, but I know a few people who liked the premise of a book and got it home only to find it not even worthy of a full read, let alone use.

We&#039;re going to see a lot of good, as well as bad, companies have trouble keeping afloat, but hopefully, in the end, it will lead to stronger products.  You&#039;re right, we&#039;re going to see a lot of companies get a pretty hefty market share just by good advertising alone.  It&#039;s been that way with every business type.

To me a choice is always better then no choice.  I&#039;ll weather the storm of bad companies overspending on marketing for now.  In the long run if they release shoddy products they&#039;ll lose whatever following they garnered from the marketing blitz.

The only question is will the industry survive and flourish during that time? I surely hope so.  If it withers a bit then it will go back to like it was in the late 70s and early 80s, just a group of us gamers hunting down the books we want and making up whatever else we require.  

One thing that I&#039;m unsure about, not working in the industry yet, is if Wizards is gambling the whole D&#038;D line on Eberron.  I really hope they aren&#039;t overextending for it as the buzz is very against it.   Sounds like they&#039;re just trying to do something different for the sake of doing something different, as opposed to a solid fantasy world.  Sounds like a Hong Kong action flick, not a D&#038;D world. They have already stirred up a small frenzy about the 3.5 release, not so long after the 3.0 release. 

Sorry to ramble on, it&#039;s a bit late and my tired brain took over.  Just found your site from a link on http://www.gamingreport.com.  I plan to read a lot more tomorrow once I&#039;m a bit more awake.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article.  I&#8217;d say that while the market is a bit saturated at the moment in the end it should lead to a better quality product all around.</p>
<p>When Wizards first put the d20/OGL out there I can&#8217;t even begin to guess at the number of absolute garbage that was pumped out in an attempt to make money on it.  I&#8217;m one to always read through a book before buying it, so I didn&#8217;t get stuck with any of the books that really weren&#8217;t worthy of money, but I know a few people who liked the premise of a book and got it home only to find it not even worthy of a full read, let alone use.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re going to see a lot of good, as well as bad, companies have trouble keeping afloat, but hopefully, in the end, it will lead to stronger products.  You&#8217;re right, we&#8217;re going to see a lot of companies get a pretty hefty market share just by good advertising alone.  It&#8217;s been that way with every business type.</p>
<p>To me a choice is always better then no choice.  I&#8217;ll weather the storm of bad companies overspending on marketing for now.  In the long run if they release shoddy products they&#8217;ll lose whatever following they garnered from the marketing blitz.</p>
<p>The only question is will the industry survive and flourish during that time? I surely hope so.  If it withers a bit then it will go back to like it was in the late 70s and early 80s, just a group of us gamers hunting down the books we want and making up whatever else we require.  </p>
<p>One thing that I&#8217;m unsure about, not working in the industry yet, is if Wizards is gambling the whole D&amp;D line on Eberron.  I really hope they aren&#8217;t overextending for it as the buzz is very against it.   Sounds like they&#8217;re just trying to do something different for the sake of doing something different, as opposed to a solid fantasy world.  Sounds like a Hong Kong action flick, not a D&amp;D world. They have already stirred up a small frenzy about the 3.5 release, not so long after the 3.0 release. </p>
<p>Sorry to ramble on, it&#8217;s a bit late and my tired brain took over.  Just found your site from a link on <a href="http://www.gamingreport.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.gamingreport.com</a>.  I plan to read a lot more tomorrow once I&#8217;m a bit more awake.</p>
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		By: Blake		</title>
		<link>https://www.forbeck.com/2004/02/04/the-game-has-changed/#comment-78</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting article.  I&#039;d say that while the market is a bit saturated at the moment in the end it should lead to a better quality product all around.

When Wizards first put the d20/OGL out there I can&#039;t even begin to guess at the number of absolute garbage that was pumped out in an attempt to make money on it.  I&#039;m one to always read through a book before buying it, so I didn&#039;t get stuck with any of the books that really weren&#039;t worthy of money, but I know a few people who liked the premise of a book and got it home only to find it not even worthy of a full read, let alone use.

We&#039;re going to see a lot of good, as well as bad, companies have trouble keeping afloat, but hopefully, in the end, it will lead to stronger products.  You&#039;re right, we&#039;re going to see a lot of companies get a pretty hefty market share just by good advertising alone.  It&#039;s been that way with every business type.

To me a choice is always better then no choice.  I&#039;ll weather the storm of bad companies overspending on marketing for now.  In the long run if they release shoddy products they&#039;ll lose whatever following they garnered from the marketing blitz.

The only question is will the industry survive and flourish during that time? I surely hope so.  If it withers a bit then it will go back to like it was in the late 70s and early 80s, just a group of us gamers hunting down the books we want and making up whatever else we require.  

One thing that I&#039;m unsure about, not working in the industry yet, is if Wizards is gambling the whole D&amp;D line on Eberron.  I really hope they aren&#039;t overextending for it as the buzz is very against it.   Sounds like they&#039;re just trying to do something different for the sake of doing something different, as opposed to a solid fantasy world.  Sounds like a Hong Kong action flick, not a D&amp;D world. They have already stirred up a small frenzy about the 3.5 release, not so long after the 3.0 release. 

Sorry to ramble on, it&#039;s a bit late and my tired brain took over.  Just found your site from a link on http://www.gamingreport.com.  I plan to read a lot more tomorrow once I&#039;m a bit more awake.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article.  I&#8217;d say that while the market is a bit saturated at the moment in the end it should lead to a better quality product all around.</p>
<p>When Wizards first put the d20/OGL out there I can&#8217;t even begin to guess at the number of absolute garbage that was pumped out in an attempt to make money on it.  I&#8217;m one to always read through a book before buying it, so I didn&#8217;t get stuck with any of the books that really weren&#8217;t worthy of money, but I know a few people who liked the premise of a book and got it home only to find it not even worthy of a full read, let alone use.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re going to see a lot of good, as well as bad, companies have trouble keeping afloat, but hopefully, in the end, it will lead to stronger products.  You&#8217;re right, we&#8217;re going to see a lot of companies get a pretty hefty market share just by good advertising alone.  It&#8217;s been that way with every business type.</p>
<p>To me a choice is always better then no choice.  I&#8217;ll weather the storm of bad companies overspending on marketing for now.  In the long run if they release shoddy products they&#8217;ll lose whatever following they garnered from the marketing blitz.</p>
<p>The only question is will the industry survive and flourish during that time? I surely hope so.  If it withers a bit then it will go back to like it was in the late 70s and early 80s, just a group of us gamers hunting down the books we want and making up whatever else we require.  </p>
<p>One thing that I&#8217;m unsure about, not working in the industry yet, is if Wizards is gambling the whole D&#038;D line on Eberron.  I really hope they aren&#8217;t overextending for it as the buzz is very against it.   Sounds like they&#8217;re just trying to do something different for the sake of doing something different, as opposed to a solid fantasy world.  Sounds like a Hong Kong action flick, not a D&#038;D world. They have already stirred up a small frenzy about the 3.5 release, not so long after the 3.0 release. </p>
<p>Sorry to ramble on, it&#8217;s a bit late and my tired brain took over.  Just found your site from a link on <a href="http://www.gamingreport.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.gamingreport.com</a>.  I plan to read a lot more tomorrow once I&#8217;m a bit more awake.</p>
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		By: Blake		</title>
		<link>https://www.forbeck.com/2004/02/04/the-game-has-changed/#comment-79</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just a quick note, I noticed after I posted my Eberron comments, that you&#039;re working a novel series based in the world.  I really hope you don&#039;t take offense to what I said, as I really didn&#039;t mean it that way at all.

Well off to bed for real this time, sorry again for the Eberron comments.  Hope you don&#039;t think I was making them towards you at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note, I noticed after I posted my Eberron comments, that you&#8217;re working a novel series based in the world.  I really hope you don&#8217;t take offense to what I said, as I really didn&#8217;t mean it that way at all.</p>
<p>Well off to bed for real this time, sorry again for the Eberron comments.  Hope you don&#8217;t think I was making them towards you at all.</p>
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		By: Buzz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Eberron, I&#039;d have a lot less respect if WotC&#039;s new setting was yet another &quot;solid fantasy world.&quot; FR, DL, and GH have been done already. Kudos to them for trying something new. And it&#039;s not like Eberron&#039;s potential failure would hurt D&amp;D in any way.

I dunno. I&#039;m amazed how much bile has been spewed over Eberron based on a few pages worth of preview material. I look forward to the finished product. The incorporation of Action Points into D&amp;D has me sold on it already. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Eberron, I&#8217;d have a lot less respect if WotC&#8217;s new setting was yet another &#8220;solid fantasy world.&#8221; FR, DL, and GH have been done already. Kudos to them for trying something new. And it&#8217;s not like Eberron&#8217;s potential failure would hurt D&#038;D in any way.</p>
<p>I dunno. I&#8217;m amazed how much bile has been spewed over Eberron based on a few pages worth of preview material. I look forward to the finished product. The incorporation of Action Points into D&#038;D has me sold on it already. 🙂</p>
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		By: Matt Forbeck		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blake: 

No offense taken. Wizards is clearly not gambling D&amp;D on Eberron any more than it staked the future of the game on the release of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. Eberron is simply another way to play the game. 

I&#039;ve read everything developed for Eberron up to when Wizards sent me a draft of the campaign setting book a few weeks back. It&#039;s great stuff with plenty of material for adventures and (fortunately for me) novels. Like Buzz, I&#039;m happy Eberron isn&#039;t another generic fantasy setting. Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk pretty much have that covered. 

The people griping about Eberron so far haven&#039;t seen much of anything about it yet. When the book finally comes out this summer, they may change their tune.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blake: </p>
<p>No offense taken. Wizards is clearly not gambling D&#038;D on Eberron any more than it staked the future of the game on the release of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. Eberron is simply another way to play the game. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read everything developed for Eberron up to when Wizards sent me a draft of the campaign setting book a few weeks back. It&#8217;s great stuff with plenty of material for adventures and (fortunately for me) novels. Like Buzz, I&#8217;m happy Eberron isn&#8217;t another generic fantasy setting. Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk pretty much have that covered. </p>
<p>The people griping about Eberron so far haven&#8217;t seen much of anything about it yet. When the book finally comes out this summer, they may change their tune.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Matt for not taking what I said as something meant towards you.  I hope it&#039;s better then it sounds, which I agree is only based on a very small amount of information.  I hope I&#039;m totally wrong and find myself buying it, honestly I do.

I&#039;m being a bit old school when I say this but I was hoping for a total revamping of Greyhawk, kind of in the way they did FR over the years.  I think that a redone Greyhawk, new boxset with tons of information and books released supporting it, would go over very well.  Especially considering it&#039;s been so long since even a map has been released.

I will say this, as I did with FR (which I loved), I&#039;m going to try and look at the new world with an open mind and perhaps I&#039;ll enjoy it.  Though so far I&#039;m not liking the action point thing myself, but as usual a good GM can filter things out they don&#039;t like.  Not that I have a group to play with anymore, having moved from my home state of NJ to Michigan.

The main reason for my comments on them betting too much on it is based more on a mistrust of Hasbro, then WOC.  I don&#039;t know if it would take too much for them to cancel a line honestly, they have a pretty bad history behind them.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Matt for not taking what I said as something meant towards you.  I hope it&#8217;s better then it sounds, which I agree is only based on a very small amount of information.  I hope I&#8217;m totally wrong and find myself buying it, honestly I do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m being a bit old school when I say this but I was hoping for a total revamping of Greyhawk, kind of in the way they did FR over the years.  I think that a redone Greyhawk, new boxset with tons of information and books released supporting it, would go over very well.  Especially considering it&#8217;s been so long since even a map has been released.</p>
<p>I will say this, as I did with FR (which I loved), I&#8217;m going to try and look at the new world with an open mind and perhaps I&#8217;ll enjoy it.  Though so far I&#8217;m not liking the action point thing myself, but as usual a good GM can filter things out they don&#8217;t like.  Not that I have a group to play with anymore, having moved from my home state of NJ to Michigan.</p>
<p>The main reason for my comments on them betting too much on it is based more on a mistrust of Hasbro, then WOC.  I don&#8217;t know if it would take too much for them to cancel a line honestly, they have a pretty bad history behind them.</p>
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